Destiny: The Taken King ViDoc – No Legend Is Safe

Unless you hve the season pass, have fun paying more money for this game. $40 this time boys :stuck_out_tongue:
NOT worth it

When’s the last time you played destiny?

Do you expect the devs to work for free?

Oryx, cheese, cheese Oryx.

Ayyy good thing I got the legendary deal when I bought the game when it came out

If you’re referring to the Limited Edition of Destiny ($99.99) than you’re incorrect, you as a consumer don’t get anything toward The Taken King. Now I have read that players who already own Destiny, The Dark Below, and House of Wolves will be able to purchase a digital copy of The Taken King for $39.99, but that obviously involves spending more money.

Personally, I can’t wait until September because the content looks amazing and it will give Destiny the review score it should have earned from the beginning; 10/10 rather than 6.5/10! I know there are a lot of people complaining about the fact that we must spend more money for a game in which we should have had from the get-go, but, for what I’ve spent on Destiny and its content, I’ve definitely gotten my moneys worth in playtime! (2000+ hours)

I love how everyone calls this game ****

This gameplay is amazing. The mechanics of it are smooth as can be. People are upset because it was an incomplete game when it was released. You can thank Activision for pushing bungie into releasing it instead of delaying it to complete it. Also, all these people who complain about that game, haven’t played it since near launch. The game has had many updates since then, as well as the DLC which makes the game feel about 80-90% complete. This upcoming dlc will definitely make this feel more than 100% complete.

The Season Pass was $35 and was to include two small DLC. This is suppose to be the big expansion technically Destiny 1.5 they had planned long ago but just $5 more

I’m definitely buying this, Destiny is my favorite game since it launched, Ever since i played the Beta i knew it would be good and i wouldn’t mind paying 39.99$ for more amazing content, I loved TDB and HoW both were great the Crota’s End raid was awesome! PoE was amazing, And i wasn’t mad at Bungie for replacing the raid with Prison of Elders because its better having a Horde mode instead of a broken raid, They weren’t ready… a lot of the team were working on the TTK content at the time… and they are still working on it, TTK will be a 40$ well spent.

Those new subclasses look awesome though.

I will probably get it but am gonna wait for reviews/youtube, etc before deciding.

The game play is fun and there is not much else on 360 to be excited about.

Background Facts:

  • TTK Launches in three packages.
  • $40.00/£40.00 for digital edition, which contains the new DLC and the Year 1 founder’s sparrow, shader, and emblem.
  • $60.00/£54.99 for legendary edition,which includes the original game, both Year 1 DLCs, and TTK DLC.
  • $80.00/£80.00 for collector’s edition, which includes everything in the Legendary edition, a bunch of different physical items, and three exclusive emotes, shaders, and exp boosting class items.
  • Fans are pissed because the only way to get the exclusive shaders and emotes is by repurchasing old content they already have.


Eurogamer: So it may seem like a small thing but you’re adding exclusive content to the game - three new dance emotes - that players can’t get unless they rebuy the main game and the two existing DLCs. Is that right?

Luke Smith: "There is no way right now for you to get the new dance emotes without doing that. Those are Collector’s Edition exclusive. We’ve set some stuff aside for that edition specifically to really make it appeal to fans who have engaged with the game already and also to people that will enter the game this autumn.

Can you see that some fans are confused that you’re asking them to buy stuff they already own?
“Yeah, I can totally empathize with those people. But the Collector’s Edition is a pretty cool package for people who want to pursue that stuff. Otherwise, surely what you’re saying is that you would want to buy them separately, right?”

Well, yeah. I would rather do that - pay a few pounds or dollars or whatever - than spend money on things I already own.

“Well, we have nothing more to talk about regarding your opportunity to spend extra money in Destiny, other than The Taken King and the three versions we’ve announced.”

Is Bungie considering selling customization items such as this separately? Or is that against the studio’s philosophy for the game?

“Rather than comment on the Bungie philosophy, here’s what I’ll tell you. If someone made a golf clap emote, I would spend money on that. Like when someone falls in the Vault of Glass. At the moment I bow when I’m trying to mess with them. So… I empathize with some of the things you’re saying.”

I feel like you should put some of these things that you are empathizing with into practice.

“We have nothing to announce today. We’re reading the forums and the reactions to this week’s announcements. We will continue to discuss player feedback with respect to the the game and Collector’s Edition content.”

Taken King costs £39.99, which is almost same as base game. Does its content justify that?

“I’m going to use American dollars, because British pounds are just foreign to me…”

Literally foreign.

“Indeed, an ocean away. So, purchasers get a big, rich campaign. Fully voiced cinematics and the story of what happens when an angry alien god wages war on a solar system, all with a satisfying conclusion. You also have a new subclass to pursue and unlock. We also have a bunch of new strikes - we’re not yet talking about how many - and a new raid. We’re showing two new PVP modes and four PVP maps this week, and it’s a fairly safe bet we’re not done yet showing things off. So I’m fairly excited about the value proposition. We’re calling this a major expansion because it is. We’re giving people a whole new place to go, that new destination…”

I get that it is big but it is also the same price as the base game. That had four areas rather than one and more missions than the Taken King. Why is it the same price?

“All I can do is answer that with the same thing I just gave you… We’re really comfortable with the value we’re giving to players this autumn. I believe that once we begin to share more, players will be even more excited. And for existing players it also comes with the Founder’s pack with a new Sparrow, shader and emblem.”

Just not the emotes.

“It doesn’t because they come with the Collector’s Edition.”

Final question on prices -

“Is it also the final question on the emotes?”

I’m not going to mention them again. I can’t get them.

“But you can if you buy the Collector’s Edition.”

I’m not going to buy the game and the two DLCs all over again.

“Ok, but first I want to poke at you on this a little bit.”

Poke at me?

“You’re feeling anxious because you want this exclusive content but you don’t know yet how much you want it. The notion of spending this money is making you anxious, I can see it -”

I do want them. I would buy them -

“If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen.”

What I’m saying is that fan frustration is not because they don’t understand the proposition. It comes regardless of how cool the exclusive content is. The frustration - and mine as a fan - is that the method of acquiring it requires me to re-buy content I bought a year ago.

“[Long pause] It’s about value. The player’s assessment of the value of the content.”

Final question on prices - The Taken King and everything released so far comes at a significant price reduction for people who want to jump in to Destiny this September. All games do Game of the Year editions now - I understand that, that’s not really an issue. But when you look at the reduction involved - it’s barely any more than just buying The Taken King solo.

"This autumn we want to have a moment of convergence where players like you and me who are engaged with Destiny can match up with people who are just joining in, who didn’t pick the game up last year for one reason or another.

"It’s also important to remember the temporal valuation of content. If you played during The Dark Below, you were playing when there were Swordbearers everywhere. That’s now gone and you can’t recapture that now. Some things are being left behind as we move forward. It’s the same with House of Wolves, right now, with the Fallen showing up all over the solar system. Those things are going to be less relevant as we move forward and the Taken are everywhere.

"We don’t have a way to go back in time and experience those things again. So the players who were there can say ‘I was here when…’ and ‘I did it when it was new’.

“I wish I had a way of better telling players that I was there back then. That I had a better way of embracing the legacy of my time with the game. This is something that we on the development team talk about all the time. It’s really important that we figure out ways to embrace the legacy that players created in the first year… I’m not going to talk about how we’re going to do that but it is right in the forefront of our brains. It’s missing right now in Destiny.”

TL;DR, Bungie needs a new PR guy. Luke Smith is an asshat.

In my opinion this all reminds me of the Frontier Ghost

No one knew that Bungie wouldn’t be introducing any Ghost shells other then the default and Collector Editions so people were able to to make the personal decision on whether or not it was all worth the price tag; taking the gamble that Bungie would release other, better Ghosts while playing through the game. Now that the game/few expansions have been released and we have yet to see any new Ghost shells people are throwing money at the Ghost shell so they can have a different item within that square and be “different” than everyone else that plays the game.

Punishing day one players by making us repurchase not only the vanilla game, but both expansions twice is not worth being different.

There you go, you weight the content you would be getting for the money you’d be putting down and made a decision based upon whether or not it would be all worth it in the end. Plus, Bungie isn’t really punishing us, they have a bundle available for those who don’t want/need all the fancy stuff. Now, they would be punishing us if there was only the Collector’s edition and so we were forced to get that and that alone or we don’t participate in The Taken King content.

…people are just complaining because they don’t want to dish out that amount of money for the extra, smaller items, content because some of the things they’d be getting would be something in which they already have.

Personally, I see this whole fiasco similar to Game of the Year editions of games…you can either purchase the game upon release and be one of the many to experience the game at launch or you can be patient and wait for the Game of the Year edition to release; getting all of the content for a lower price tag, but not being one of the first to experience the game. [People forget that one of the benefits of getting the game at launch is you have a head start over everyone else who gets the game at a later date. (ex: Call of Duty with Christmas noobs)]

That interview with Eurogamer and Luke Smith, I’ve lost patience with Bungie.

It’s a PR nightmare for them. Pretty much everyone that plays destiny is talking about this. Thousands of pre-orders have been canceled as a result so far.

Everyone knew it would be a nightmare they really slapped everyone in the face who loves the games. They are also being made fun of by other game companies for their recent promotion to buy a Redbull for a exclusive quest.

I cracked up when I saw that, I literally just left the redbull page

I tried to find the image(s), but people have been editing in Mountain Dew, Pepsi, Coke, etc. into some current Destiny gear just to prove a point in “dumb” this promotion is. Personally, I couldn’t care less when it comes to other peoples opinions on this matter because I was one who went around to various 7/11 establishments to get the exclusive gear for Halo: 4, I’ll be doing the same for the Redbull quest, but I have been laughing at the images people are creating because they seem pretty real! Lol

(ex: An exotic helmet with the Pepsi logo on the side)