Interactive Controlls

You’re either willfully ignorant or just…well ignorant.
I’m saying that I refuse to pay for something when they have clearly made the feature pro-only to support their bottom line, which is their right, but I won’t support it. It’s scummy.

And once again I refuse to believe they waited, if they forgot to make it pro only they would have fixed that within a day, probably just a few hours, I guarantee you.
When you really think about it, it doesn’t make any sense to wait for v5 when they could have just pushed in the next update, that way they don’t have the users getting used to having the feature for free and the eventual backlash when they make it pro only.
It’s a stupid move that makes no sense.

Or I am not a greedy leech that wants everything for free and starts to make an uproar as soon asa something is not to his liking.
I can understand that you’re annoyed by that I really can. I haven’t really used that feature ever so I’m not really too bothered by it. Some people, like you, use it all the time more than the hotkeys.

So you won’t support something that is well within their rights because it’s scummy?
Well now let’s think for a second. How many people do you think use WeMod daily? How many of them are pro? Who pays for all this? Free trainer, Wage for Devs, The website, The actual application, Development of the app. Well clearly you don’t look into all this.

WEMOD IS FREE! No ads nothing. And yet that’s apparently not free enough for you.

Those are the words of one of the devs not mine.
They always make big changes from v to v not in between. In between are just bugfixes.

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They decided to make it and to make it free, not my fault that they can’t plan ahead.
And it’s not just that it’s not “to my liking”, it’s literally unusable for me now.

I won’t support it because it’s shady, 1 warning, whether by email or a notification in the launcher and it would have at the very least softened the blow a bit.
And like it or not the fact that’s it free is the only reason it got as big as it is in the first place.

And forgetting to implement a feature seems like it would be pretty important wouldn’t you agree?
It’s a pretty big mistake, not too far removed from a bug within the program.

I’m sorry, but it’s not justifiable and think the amount of users will drop significantly with this change.

And left not forget that interactive controls came with V3 didn’t it?
So why not implement pro only with v4?

It’s almost like it’s a new idea that they know people won’t like so they try to cover themselves with “it’s was always gonna be there we just forgot…”

How is it unusable? Hotkeys are still free to everyone and since we support key combinations there is no reason it should interfere with the games keys.

What is shady about making 1 feature Pro only?

It is still free but is it really unreasonable for us to make premium features to encourage people to go Pro? We have no ads on the site or in the app. We don’t sell your data. We don’t force you to go Pro or donate like several other trainers do.

You can read Frank’s reply in another thread about how things are going to have to change going forward: WeMod update feedback - #57 by frank

What feature did we forget to implement? People went through V1 and V2 without being able to use sliders or toggle cheats on and off by clicking them.

I disagree. We still offer more than any other trainer out there. Why would people leave for another service that is either going to be a paid service or force them to use hotkeys also? If other trainers were better people would have left regardless if interactive controls were available or not.

WeMod 5 has been in development for many months now and V4 was stepping stone that allowed us to test some new features(mining for Pro and Version Guard). Yes, we could have implemented it then but we knew we would be pushing v5 within a few months so we waited.

This is how easy it is to survive without pro and/or interactive controls:
step 1: Buy a cheap secondary screen (preferbly 1680x1050 and up but any screen will suffice).
step 2: Bind the cheats to keys not used for games.
step 3: Drag the Infinity/wemod window onto the secondary screen.
step 4: Profit!

The pro benefits are just icing on the cake right now, they are not needed but nice to have. Sooner or later they will introduce pro-only cheats, people will be far more angry about that and forget about all this.

My biggest issue with v5 is them changing the name, Infinity is easier to say and less confusing than WeMod App™

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Did you even read my previous comments?
For some games there not enough combinations on my 60% keyboard for both the game and the cheats, this means that I need to tie several cheats to the same hotkey combination, but sometimes I don’t want several cheats enabled, so then I have to 1. Disable all the cheats tied to that combination(I’ll explain later). 2. Go back into wemod. 3. Find another combination for the cheat that I don’t want enabled. 4. Tie that cheat to that other combination. 5. Re-enable all the cheats that was tied to that combination. 6. Go back to the game.

Used to be a 3 step process, now it’s 5 steps and takes a bit of time having to look over all the hotkeys.
The biggest problem though is that this is taking one issue and making it a perpetual one. Because it now takes so much fiddling with the hotkeys and having to have several cheats tied to the same combination that it often takes minutes just enabling or disabling something. Not to mention having to remember all of these combinations.

And no, without interactive controls you don’t have more than “any other trainer out there”. It was really the only thing you guys offer the differentiates you from other thing out there.
Some standalone trainers even have interactive controls.

If a month ago I had gotten an email or a notification in the launcher that said "Just a heads up, when v5 comes out we will make interactive controls pro only, I probably would have been fine with it, because at least I would have gotten a warning, but you couldn’t have done that because it never a “forgotten but planned feature”.

What you guys do is great, but you’re still only making the process of having a trainer for games slightly more convenient than most of the other options out there. Sure you got a flashy UI(that’s filled with stuff no one needs to look at, just let me access my cheats as soon as I open the launcher), but that doesn’t really matter.
Hell, I still use stuff like cheat engine sometimes, wanna know why?
Because it’s more convenient.
Cheat engine even has cheat tables that act like trainers, and guess what!?
It even let’s you use your mouse to active stuff!
Not a penny spent for that feature. And don’t give me the whole bloatware speech, it’s like an idiot tax, if you’re dumb enough to install bloatware it’s on you. I got through the process of installing cheat engine without installing bloatware just fine.

Do you guys always play windowed/full screen borderless on a second monitor to interact with the app without minimizing the game? Or do you just minimize it each time?

I don’t have a second monitor so I usually have to minimize it.

Maybe you should get a full-size keyboard too? You can get 50+ possible combinations with one.

You can’t really expect them the model everything after a very tiny minority with strange setups.

I understand him. I have no money AND time AND space on my desk (it’s pretty small and so all my computer stuff fills up the space) so, second monitor? No thanks. That is really a problem. No interactive keys? No ease. Unless I can use my piece of **** old phone Samsung Galaxy S as a monitor.
I really don’t like the fact anymore that I can’t use hotkeys…

You can’t use interactive controls.
You can use hotkeys.

Yeahhh… right.

I use the Hearts of Iron trainer from wemod and its a pain to use the numpad f1-f12 keys

Change the hotkeys then

I understand the fact that they made it a Pro feature.
I’m not gonna lie, i could afford the pro package. I honestly just don’t see why i would.
If it’s not here i look somewhere else. If it’s not free fine, i’ll just use cheat engine and make my own no problem. Now that we got that out of the way since some people find this information important if you want to buy pro or not.
It’s free and i think that’s amazing. However, i have to agree with the majority that this was a bad move.
Now this might give you a slightly higher income for now. But in the long run allot of potential pro users will leave. The software won’t be rated as high anymore by people and will cause again more people to leave and less traffic to come to Wemod.
So in the long run there is a high change you will lose money on this 1 feature.

Also i have to be honest it is a weird excuse that “we forgot to implement it”.
I’ve honestly never ever used a software that was like ow yea sorry that was free but we meant to make that payed for from the beginning. Let’s just say how it is. They wanted to make it more attractive for people to pay pro and this is a way of doing so.

The thing i have to support is the fact there are ways to use it now. But it isn’t worth it. they are too tedious and there is better and other trainers out there that even take in account the hotkeys in the game itself.

But the worst thing about this is which i have not read here. You changed this one feature without any before hand notice that it has lost my trust. You could say whatever you want now but how would i believe any of it? You could easly make anything pro now just like that. You could next time say just like now yea we planned to do that but we forgot.
But all of this is just my opinion take it however you want it’s not gonna change anything.

Anyway Wemod i wish you luck on your journey to becoming the next Cheathappens. Cya.

Well it could be called appreciation to buy pro for all the free hard work that goes imto this awsome app. All the hard work to make it , all the hard work for the trainer makers just mainly things like that. Thats the only reason i bought pro is because some people dont have the smarts to make there own trainers and appreciate that its easy to use and they work !!

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We are always looking for feedback and appreciate any constructive criticisms the community has to offer. One thing I will say is that you mention how it’s all your opinion - which is pretty expected - yet some of your comments sort of contradict that.

These three statements come off as you just claiming that these are true.

With this being said, that last statement is sort of true. The feature being included in Pro is a way to incentive people to support the site and developers. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. We want our Pro users to get cool features because we appreciate the people supporting us. We wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for them! It’s just that it wasn’t done that way originally by mistake, as we have already stated.

That is fair. Not everyone will find the additional features worth the cost, and we certainly don’t expect everyone to pay. That is why the app and every trainer itself is still free. We are always working on new things to give to users and have plenty of stuff coming up.
Is there something about these other trainers that make them better in your opinion? We are always open to ideas.

I don’t understand your point of view. You can afford it but you won’t because you don’t know why? Also you can use ce to do what you want but still here whining and complaining?

I think that is the most stupid thing i have read so far about this. Because the people complaining can’t afford it and can’t make this themselves.

I am not trying to be mean, just honestly confused. I can make my own cheats so i won’t complain to someone and whine. I can afford a 5$ software and if I need it, I’ll just buy it instead of complaining to them that i can afford it but why would I?

It seems like you’re just complaining here for the sake of complaining lol or because all the loser kids are doing it? :smile:

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Yes, i agree. I wasn’t trying to imply anything that it is wrong to buy pro. But i read the previous posts and they all came down to this: “You just don’t/can’t afford pro.”. I wanted to say my place on the matter so i could avoid a comment like that. I’m also not saying people should not buy pro.
Honestly if you want to support these great people and you can’t do it yourself go for it. I want this software to grow and develop because i thought it was awesome.

I wonder what you mean that it contradicts my opinion? Can’t an opinion be basically anything even if it contradicts itself?

Well i don’t think i said anything was wrong with it. I’m sorry if i came off that way. It’s just… Let’s say it is true that they forgot to implement it then it still would still have been better so simply say they wanted to make pro more attractive since nobody actually knows that you meant to implement it that way. So to the user database it sounds very strange the way it being presented right now.

Actually i have been thinking about this and i maybe have a solution. I don’t know the inner workings of your software enough to know exactly how it presents everything but I’ve noticed most of the time the hotkeys are conflicting with keys in the game itself of witch i did not change any. So i’m guessing it assigns a basic form of hotkeys. First F1-F12 next numpad or something.
My suggestion would be when the trainers are made to set the hotkeys automatically to keys not used by the game it is used on. Now people can change their hotkeys in games so i only mean the default settings of the hotkeys in that game. This solution will not be satisfying for everyone but i think for the majority of users even pro users this is a positive development.

Actually i was giving some constructive criticism about this matter to try to help the developers. Did I at one point say that i disagree with this move? I called it a bad move because of the way they did it that’s all and i tried to explain why.

My comment wasn’t even about buying the pro. I just wanted to mention that i’m not one of the people that couldn’t go for pro so that my opinion on the matter comes from another angle then those who can’t.
In laymens therms. I wasn’t crying about a feature becoming pro but the execution of doing so and to make that clear i would have to mention i could afford pro if i wanted to be pro.

I hope you now know why i wrote the “most stupid thing” so far.
Also why say loser kids? What does that help anywhere?